An Interview with Mountaineer Olivia Jane Wood
04/2021
04/2021
On July the 22nd, 1871, Lucy Walker became the first woman to reach the summit of the Matterhorn. Climbing firmly against the grain, Lucy was undeterred by the stiff Victorian attitude of the dayāand at a time when a womanās place was still seen as firmly in the home, she made it to the top of the 4,478 metre peak in style, fuelled by a diet of champagne and sponge cake.
In 2021 ā 150 years later ā British mountaineer Olivia Jane Wood is set to pay homage to Lucyās pioneering expedition, following in Lucyās footsteps (and footholds) to summit Switzerlandās most notorious peak.
As an accomplished climber, who grew up in Zermattājust a stoneās throw from the Matterhornāthis is far from being ājust another mountainā to Olivia, and reaching the top will be the realisation of a life-long dream. In partnership with Mammut and Switzerland Tourism, Olivia will be documenting every step of her journey on her Instagram account ābut to set the scene a little bit, we called her up to find out a bit about her childhood in Switzerland, her love of the outdoors and the endless hunt for adrenaline...
Growing up, you spent a lot of time in Zermatt didnāt you? Was climbing the Matterhorn something youād always wanted to do?
My family had a photography shop in the centre of Zermatt, so I spent most of my childhood out there. Iād fly out there on my own, even when I was seven years old. Iād literally wake up to the Matterhorn every morning. It was a big part of my familyās life. Me and my grandad would do these local walks, up to this viewpoint to the Matterhorn, and I remember standing with my grandparentās one day saying, āIām going to climb up there one day.ā The Matterhorn is super special to me. Itās the one Iāve always wanted to do. To me, itās the most iconic mountain, and it was always the one that I wanted to climb.
Even back then, were you obsessed with the outdoors?
Yeah, I guess I was. Iād literally throw myself into anything, and maybe that was because I was surrounded by these big mountains growing up. As a kid, Iād just play in the mountains, or go down to the river, and Iād never feel scared.
Your family had St Bernards too didnāt they? Theyāre a classic part of mountain life in Switzerland.
We had five St Bernards. They did play a part in mountain rescue, with the local guides, but they were mainly used for my parentsā photography business. They would be taken up to a viewpoint, and then the tourists would get photographed with the St Bernards, as they were such an iconic part of the landscape. Theyāre the main thing everyone knows about Zermatt.
And they were traditionally for mountain rescue, werenāt they?
Yeah, they were search and rescue dogs, used to find casualties in the snow. I went deep into the history of them, and from what I read, thereās a pass that runs from Switzerland to Italy, called the Great St Bernard Pass, which was really dangerousānot only because it was high up in the mountains, but because of attacks from invaders. In the end a mountain hut was built on the pass, and dogs, which were later known as St Bernards, were kept there which would try and rescue injured people in the area. And it all kind of stemmed from that. Itās pretty fascinating if you read into it.
Were there any female climbers you looked up to when you were growing up?
There were a lot of female climbers in magazines and on the television when I was growing up, but I specifically remember watching a documentary about five years ago with Gwen Moffat in it and she really inspired me.
Back when Lucy Walker climbed the Matterhorn 150 years ago, it was seen as controversial for her to be climbing up there. What are the attitudes to female climbers these days?
I feel itās a lot more the norm now for female mountaineers and climbers to scale big mountains. I believe females have the same capabilities as males in the mountainsāand females bring a great vibe to mountaineering and climbing in this century.
When did you go from just knocking around the outdoors as a kid, to thinking, āRight, this is what I want to do.ā
I climbed a lot when I was a kid with my grandfather. Heād take me up to the Lake District all the time. I never did any 4,000 metre peaks as a kid in Zermatt, I did plenty of hiking and rock climbing. But then in university, I joined the mountaineering and climbing club, and thatās where it all really started.
We did winter skills courses in the Cairngorms⦠we went rock climbing⦠we did indoor climbing. Thatās when I started to take things more seriously, and started to push my boundaries. Iād always been into walking and scrambling, but in terms of really big stuff, university was the game changerādoing the big routes up in Scotland. Some of the guys in the club were pros, they were insane climbersāso I was doing stuff that was completely out of my comfort zone, but it quickly built my confidence.
From there, I started trying to tag along with friends who were a lot better than me. In terms of climbing I was a novice back then. Iād watch them and how theyād climb, trying to learn the rope skills. And it just progressed from there, going out to Chamonix, doing some big Alpine routes. And doing all that just built up my confidence. My first big Alpine route was about five years ago, and I completely fell in love with it, because it was so dangerous.
How does something like that differ from a day in the Lakes?
The risk is just⦠I donāt know⦠maybe ten times more than something like taking a walk up Scafell? I donāt know if words can describe it. It makes me speechless every time I get out there. Those routes out in Chamonix or the Dolomites⦠theyāre big. Itās out of this world.
Itās a different scale. Getting to the top of the Matterhorn isnāt just a casual walk, and the last 4,000 feet is one long climb. How do you train for something like that? What are the sort of things youāve got to think about?
Iāve got to make myself fit enough to give myself the best chance to summit. Itās a lot easier to train with a goal. Iāll be prioritising mountain fitness and efficient movement skills. Iāll try to mimic the same sort of rock movementāpracticing on grade 2 or 3 scrambles, and Vdiff climbs, but carrying a rucksack and wearing mountaineering boots, whereas normally on something like that, youād wear climbing shoes. I want to get used to moving on these climbs with a pack on my backābecause it can be quite awkward.
So youāre almost simulating the situation?
Yeah, exactly. And then Iāll do strength training and loads of cardio-vascular training, to help with the altitudeāplenty of big, long days on the hills.
How does the altitude affect things?
It affects each individual differently. When I was in Nepal, there was a guy who was with us who started showing signs of pulmonary edema, which is where fluid starts to build up in the lungs, at around 4,800 metres. Thatās one of the biggest problems, and it can actually kill you if itās not treated correctly. And then thereās headaches and being out of breathāso that makes everything a lot harder. So the fitter I am, the better. But in terms of the Matterhorn, youāre not that highāI think my altitude sickness hit me around 5,200 metres, and I just got headaches and felt a little bit woozy.
Thereās a lot youāve got to think about then. I suppose there are a lot of variables with climbingāitās not like youāre running a hundred metres on a track, or swimming in a swimming pool.
Itās funny you say that. When youāre climbing a mountain, you donāt have opponents like with other sports. I think with traditional sports, youāre constantly training to beat somebody elseābeing faster, or stronger than them. But climbing just isnāt like that. Youāre putting in all the same effort, but itās usually to join up with someone to do something you wouldnāt normally be capable of. Itās not normal. I think thatās what attracts me so much to it.
Some people might be competitive with it, but it doesnāt seem like thatās what itās about for you. Is it more about pushing yourself?
Yeah. But I definitely know the risks now. Even though these experiences build your confidence, you canāt be overconfident. I used to always think, āOkay, weāre at the top now, itās so easy to get down.ā But itās notāgoing down is the most dangerous part.
I can imagine you could get quite cocky with stuff like thisābut maybe thatās where people go wrong.
100%. You canāt overthink things, as sometimes overthinking things can cause the problemābut youāve got to know your vulnerabilities and the āwhat ifsā. Thatāll definitely save you.
These huge mountains are pretty serious. You canāt take them lightly.
You just donāt know whatās going to happen. But I think the human mind, or at least my mind, needs these adventures. I need to take these risks. It just makes sense to me. We live in a society of performance, where itās cool to push boundaries and limitsāand thatās what I love about adventuresāclimbing a mountain like the Matterhorn is another way to push my boundaries.
How do you deal mentally with something like that? It must get pretty daunting at points.
Thereās only one way up, and one way down, so I just try and stay very focussed, and very calm. I donāt overthink too much. Being a little bit scared is healthy, but not to the point where you freeze up. I try to just enjoy it.
Is it a case of getting into that āflow stateā type thingājust doing things naturally?
Yeah, you donāt want to think about it. I know the risks are there, but I donāt think about them.
Do you have a favourite place in the UK you like to climb?
In winter itād be in Scotland. Iāve not done loads of winter stuff up there, but thatās the place to build confidence in winter mountaineering stuff. But then thereās the Lakes. I love the Langdales for climbingāthereās some beautiful crags there to climb on a nice sunny evening. I love Wales too, but Iāve not been able to enjoy it as much. Thereās some beautiful climbs there.
And what about in Europe?
I always go back to Zermatt, because itās like a second home to me. Itās so safeāno cars are allowed there, there are just little electric taxis. And then on Sunday, youāre not allowed to do any gardening or any washingāand if you do, you get fined. Itās amazing. And the peach ice tea is to die for. And then thereās Italy as well. The Gran Paradiso is a beautiful national park. Itās still alpine, but thereās no technical climbing in it.
Whereās the buzz of all this for you? Is it when you get back from a big adventure? Or is it when youāre out there?
There is that feeling at the endāI usually get a bit shell shocked, and I need a bit of time to get my head around what Iāve just doneābut for me, itās doing it. Itās the adrenaline. Thatās what I crave in my life.
How far do you take that though? Are there things you wouldnāt do?
Iām petrified of flyingābut I still do it. One of my goals in life was to get rid of that fear, so I thought by doing that Iād do my AFF licence, which is for skydiving. So Iām in the process of that now, and I can jump out of the planes on my own now. Iām still scared, but itās eliminated a lot of my fear, because skydiving planes are the worst planes to fly inātheyāre just rickety little things. And I canāt even explain the feeling of falling out of an aeroplane, and then pulling your parachute. Itās such a cool feeling when youāve launched your parachute and youāre flying through the air.
Yeah that bit sounds okay, but youāve got to do the āfalling out the planeā bit to get to that.
Yeah, itās weird. Thinking about it actually scares me. I canāt really explain what itās like. Maybe go in a wind-tunnel and try that, because itās a similar feeling. Itās not the sort of thing the human body is made for. Itās so not normal for a human body to jump out of an aeroplane, 15,000 feet up in the air.
How do you then relax from all this?
I donāt. I guess I do relax in my own time, but Iām always thinking about what my next adventure is. Thatās what keeps me alive. It keeps me going. Itās like my grandmaāsheās 80 and sheās still walking in the hills. I always say to her, āHow are you still going?ā and she says, āItās because Iām not sat there doing nothing.ā
Having something to get out of bed for is importantāis that what keeps you doing so many different things? As well as climbing, you also do a lot of mountain-biking and snowboarding.
Yeahāitās like with mountain biking. I started that four years ago. I was okay at it, which meant I wanted to get better at it. And now itās just another thing in my life. My favourite thing is hike-a-bikeāhiking up mountains with my bikeāand that helps me with my fitness as carrying a bike up a mountain is ten times harder than carrying a rucksack. Everything fits together.
And then thereās paddle-boarding and snowboarding. I just embrace all adventure I guess. Iām definitely not one of those people who are good at everything, I just donāt give up. I keep trying until I get better. Iām not naturally good at everything, but I always want to learn.
Thatās a good way to be. Weāve talked for a while nowāhave you got any wise words to finish this with?
If I can do it, anybody can. Theyāre my words of wisdom.
This summer Olivia will be making her first ascent of the Matterhorn, 150 years to the day that Lucy Walker became the first woman to climb the mountain. To keep up with her training schedule and to see what it takes to complete this kind of climb follow @olivia.jane.x , @mammut_uk , @zermatters , @myswitzerland , and the #lucywalker150 hashtag on Instagram for updates.
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