An Interview with Mountaineer Olivia Jane Wood
04/2021
04/2021
On July the 22nd, 1871, Lucy Walker became the first woman to reach the summit of the Matterhorn. Climbing firmly against the grain, Lucy was undeterred by the stiff Victorian attitude of the dayâand at a time when a womanâs place was still seen as firmly in the home, she made it to the top of the 4,478 metre peak in style, fuelled by a diet of champagne and sponge cake.
In 2021 â 150 years later â British mountaineer Olivia Jane Wood is set to pay homage to Lucyâs pioneering expedition, following in Lucyâs footsteps (and footholds) to summit Switzerlandâs most notorious peak.
As an accomplished climber, who grew up in Zermattâjust a stoneâs throw from the Matterhornâthis is far from being âjust another mountainâ to Olivia, and reaching the top will be the realisation of a life-long dream. In partnership with Mammut and Switzerland Tourism, Olivia will be documenting every step of her journey on her Instagram account ââbut to set the scene a little bit, we called her up to find out a bit about her childhood in Switzerland, her love of the outdoors and the endless hunt for adrenaline...
Growing up, you spent a lot of time in Zermatt didnât you? Was climbing the Matterhorn something youâd always wanted to do?
My family had a photography shop in the centre of Zermatt, so I spent most of my childhood out there. Iâd fly out there on my own, even when I was seven years old. Iâd literally wake up to the Matterhorn every morning. It was a big part of my familyâs life. Me and my grandad would do these local walks, up to this viewpoint to the Matterhorn, and I remember standing with my grandparentâs one day saying, âIâm going to climb up there one day.â The Matterhorn is super special to me. Itâs the one Iâve always wanted to do. To me, itâs the most iconic mountain, and it was always the one that I wanted to climb.
Even back then, were you obsessed with the outdoors?
Yeah, I guess I was. Iâd literally throw myself into anything, and maybe that was because I was surrounded by these big mountains growing up. As a kid, Iâd just play in the mountains, or go down to the river, and Iâd never feel scared.
I'm going to climb up there one day.
Your family had St Bernards too didnât they? Theyâre a classic part of mountain life in Switzerland.
We had five St Bernards. They did play a part in mountain rescue, with the local guides, but they were mainly used for my parentsâ photography business. They would be taken up to a viewpoint, and then the tourists would get photographed with the St Bernards, as they were such an iconic part of the landscape. Theyâre the main thing everyone knows about Zermatt.
And they were traditionally for mountain rescue, werenât they?
Yeah, they were search and rescue dogs, used to find casualties in the snow. I went deep into the history of them, and from what I read, thereâs a pass that runs from Switzerland to Italy, called the Great St Bernard Pass, which was really dangerousânot only because it was high up in the mountains, but because of attacks from invaders. In the end a mountain hut was built on the pass, and dogs, which were later known as St Bernards, were kept there which would try and rescue injured people in the area. And it all kind of stemmed from that. Itâs pretty fascinating if you read into it.
Were there any female climbers you looked up to when you were growing up?
There were a lot of female climbers in magazines and on the television when I was growing up, but I specifically remember watching a documentary about five years ago with Gwen Moffat in it and she really inspired me.
Back when Lucy Walker climbed the Matterhorn 150 years ago, it was seen as controversial for her to be climbing up there. What are the attitudes to female climbers these days?
I feel itâs a lot more the norm now for female mountaineers and climbers to scale big mountains. I believe females have the same capabilities as males in the mountainsâand females bring a great vibe to mountaineering and climbing in this century.
I don't know if words can describe it. It makes me speechless every time I get out there.
When did you go from just knocking around the outdoors as a kid, to thinking, âRight, this is what I want to do.â
I climbed a lot when I was a kid with my grandfather. Heâd take me up to the Lake District all the time. I never did any 4,000 metre peaks as a kid in Zermatt, I did plenty of hiking and rock climbing. But then in university, I joined the mountaineering and climbing club, and thatâs where it all really started.
We did winter skills courses in the Cairngorms⊠we went rock climbing⊠we did indoor climbing. Thatâs when I started to take things more seriously, and started to push my boundaries. Iâd always been into walking and scrambling, but in terms of really big stuff, university was the game changerâdoing the big routes up in Scotland. Some of the guys in the club were pros, they were insane climbersâso I was doing stuff that was completely out of my comfort zone, but it quickly built my confidence.
From there, I started trying to tag along with friends who were a lot better than me. In terms of climbing I was a novice back then. Iâd watch them and how theyâd climb, trying to learn the rope skills. And it just progressed from there, going out to Chamonix, doing some big Alpine routes. And doing all that just built up my confidence. My first big Alpine route was about five years ago, and I completely fell in love with it, because it was so dangerous.
How does something like that differ from a day in the Lakes?
The risk is just⊠I donât know⊠maybe ten times more than something like taking a walk up Scafell? I donât know if words can describe it. It makes me speechless every time I get out there. Those routes out in Chamonix or the Dolomites⊠theyâre big. Itâs out of this world.
Itâs a different scale. Getting to the top of the Matterhorn isnât just a casual walk, and the last 4,000 feet is one long climb. How do you train for something like that? What are the sort of things youâve got to think about?
Iâve got to make myself fit enough to give myself the best chance to summit. Itâs a lot easier to train with a goal. Iâll be prioritising mountain fitness and efficient movement skills. Iâll try to mimic the same sort of rock movementâpracticing on grade 2 or 3 scrambles, and Vdiff climbs, but carrying a rucksack and wearing mountaineering boots, whereas normally on something like that, youâd wear climbing shoes. I want to get used to moving on these climbs with a pack on my backâbecause it can be quite awkward.
So youâre almost simulating the situation?
Yeah, exactly. And then Iâll do strength training and loads of cardio-vascular training, to help with the altitudeâplenty of big, long days on the hills.
How does the altitude affect things?
It affects each individual differently. When I was in Nepal, there was a guy who was with us who started showing signs of pulmonary edema, which is where fluid starts to build up in the lungs, at around 4,800 metres. Thatâs one of the biggest problems, and it can actually kill you if itâs not treated correctly. And then thereâs headaches and being out of breathâso that makes everything a lot harder. So the fitter I am, the better. But in terms of the Matterhorn, youâre not that highâI think my altitude sickness hit me around 5,200 metres, and I just got headaches and felt a little bit woozy.
Thereâs a lot youâve got to think about then. I suppose there are a lot of variables with climbingâitâs not like youâre running a hundred metres on a track, or swimming in a swimming pool.
Itâs funny you say that. When youâre climbing a mountain, you donât have opponents like with other sports. I think with traditional sports, youâre constantly training to beat somebody elseâbeing faster, or stronger than them. But climbing just isnât like that. Youâre putting in all the same effort, but itâs usually to join up with someone to do something you wouldnât normally be capable of. Itâs not normal. I think thatâs what attracts me so much to it.
Some people might be competitive with it, but it doesnât seem like thatâs what itâs about for you. Is it more about pushing yourself?
Yeah. But I definitely know the risks now. Even though these experiences build your confidence, you canât be overconfident. I used to always think, âOkay, weâre at the top now, itâs so easy to get down.â But itâs notâgoing down is the most dangerous part.
I can imagine you could get quite cocky with stuff like thisâbut maybe thatâs where people go wrong.
100%. You canât overthink things, as sometimes overthinking things can cause the problemâbut youâve got to know your vulnerabilities and the âwhat ifsâ. Thatâll definitely save you.
These huge mountains are pretty serious. You canât take them lightly.
You just donât know whatâs going to happen. But I think the human mind, or at least my mind, needs these adventures. I need to take these risks. It just makes sense to me. We live in a society of performance, where itâs cool to push boundaries and limitsâand thatâs what I love about adventuresâclimbing a mountain like the Matterhorn is another way to push my boundaries.
How do you deal mentally with something like that? It must get pretty daunting at points.
Thereâs only one way up, and one way down, so I just try and stay very focussed, and very calm. I donât overthink too much. Being a little bit scared is healthy, but not to the point where you freeze up. I try to just enjoy it.
It's the adrenaline. That's what I crave in my life.
Is it a case of getting into that âflow stateâ type thingâjust doing things naturally?
Yeah, you donât want to think about it. I know the risks are there, but I donât think about them.
Do you have a favourite place in the UK you like to climb?
In winter itâd be in Scotland. Iâve not done loads of winter stuff up there, but thatâs the place to build confidence in winter mountaineering stuff. But then thereâs the Lakes. I love the Langdales for climbingâthereâs some beautiful crags there to climb on a nice sunny evening. I love Wales too, but Iâve not been able to enjoy it as much. Thereâs some beautiful climbs there.
And what about in Europe?
I always go back to Zermatt, because itâs like a second home to me. Itâs so safeâno cars are allowed there, there are just little electric taxis. And then on Sunday, youâre not allowed to do any gardening or any washingâand if you do, you get fined. Itâs amazing. And the peach ice tea is to die for. And then thereâs Italy as well. The Gran Paradiso is a beautiful national park. Itâs still alpine, but thereâs no technical climbing in it.
Whereâs the buzz of all this for you? Is it when you get back from a big adventure? Or is it when youâre out there?
There is that feeling at the endâI usually get a bit shell shocked, and I need a bit of time to get my head around what Iâve just doneâbut for me, itâs doing it. Itâs the adrenaline. Thatâs what I crave in my life.
How far do you take that though? Are there things you wouldnât do?
Iâm petrified of flyingâbut I still do it. One of my goals in life was to get rid of that fear, so I thought by doing that Iâd do my AFF licence, which is for skydiving. So Iâm in the process of that now, and I can jump out of the planes on my own now. Iâm still scared, but itâs eliminated a lot of my fear, because skydiving planes are the worst planes to fly inâtheyâre just rickety little things. And I canât even explain the feeling of falling out of an aeroplane, and then pulling your parachute. Itâs such a cool feeling when youâve launched your parachute and youâre flying through the air.
Yeah that bit sounds okay, but youâve got to do the âfalling out the planeâ bit to get to that.
Yeah, itâs weird. Thinking about it actually scares me. I canât really explain what itâs like. Maybe go in a wind-tunnel and try that, because itâs a similar feeling. Itâs not the sort of thing the human body is made for. Itâs so not normal for a human body to jump out of an aeroplane, 15,000 feet up in the air.
How do you then relax from all this?
I donât. I guess I do relax in my own time, but Iâm always thinking about what my next adventure is. Thatâs what keeps me alive. It keeps me going. Itâs like my grandmaâsheâs 80 and sheâs still walking in the hills. I always say to her, âHow are you still going?â and she says, âItâs because Iâm not sat there doing nothing.â
Having something to get out of bed for is importantâis that what keeps you doing so many different things? As well as climbing, you also do a lot of mountain-biking and snowboarding.
Yeahâitâs like with mountain biking. I started that four years ago. I was okay at it, which meant I wanted to get better at it. And now itâs just another thing in my life. My favourite thing is hike-a-bikeâhiking up mountains with my bikeâand that helps me with my fitness as carrying a bike up a mountain is ten times harder than carrying a rucksack. Everything fits together.
And then thereâs paddle-boarding and snowboarding. I just embrace all adventure I guess. Iâm definitely not one of those people who are good at everything, I just donât give up. I keep trying until I get better. Iâm not naturally good at everything, but I always want to learn.
Thatâs a good way to be. Weâve talked for a while nowâhave you got any wise words to finish this with?
If I can do it, anybody can. Theyâre my words of wisdom.
This summer Olivia will be making her first ascent of the Matterhorn, 150 years to the day that Lucy Walker became the first woman to climb the mountain. To keep up with her training schedule and to see what it takes to complete this kind of climb follow @olivia.jane.x â, @mammut_uk â, @zermatters â, @myswitzerland â, and the #lucywalker150 âhashtag on Instagram for updates.